Episode #9 | Finding Your Inner Venus Warrior An Interview With Domestic Violence Survivor Miki Sturges


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Liz Lima:    

00:02 - Well thank you, everybody, for coming. This is episode nine of Venus Warriors and today is a really special episode because we finally have the best first interview and it is from a woman that I've known for my gosh a few months now. We actually were in the same group program together for our business and it's something that we want to grow and we have, I mean we've been in this group for a few months now. We've done the trainings, we've launched our own businesses and the really, the big thing I really like about our guest today is that she really shows what being empowered is and she really shows what I talk about is, finding your inner Venus Warrior. She has shown that throughout the entire program and totally gravitated towards her because she is pretty awesome as you guys will know very soon. But I really want to take this time to introduce Miki Sturges.

Mikin Sturges:    

01:01 - How are you? Hello. Thank you so much for inviting me. I'm super excited and I'm so touched.

Liz Lima:    

01:01 - It's so true though. It's, and, and it's great because like when we are looking at ourselves, right, and we're going through are things, we don't see that. Right. But then when other people say it, you're like, oh wow. Yeah, I kind of do that. And that's pretty cool. So everything and it's true. And I, and, and I, um, I want you to go ahead and introduce yourself and tell our listeners what it is that you do and how you serve others.

Mikin Sturges:    

01:35 - Okay. Well, my name is Miki Sturges. I am a life coach. I'm super passionate about helping women, especially those people who have gone through like domestic violence, a betrayal, those tough situations, help them get out of feeling of unworthiness and insecurity so that they can have a life filled with joy and security and hope and be free to go after their dreams. And, um, I am also a creator of rise up woman movement and I wanted to create this movement so that, you know, we sometimes we, women, especially moms tend to be the last, you know, we tend to keep ourselves last and take care of everybody else. And all of a sudden you don't know. We don't know who we are. We lose hope. Sometimes I feel stuck and keep questioning who, who am I? You know? And I wanted to this group to be a supporting, empowering group, not justice. Stay in this dark pit. I always say duck pit, because that's where I was. I felt like there was no light. It was dark. It was just a horrible place to be alone. So that's, that's why I created this group. I call it a movement because I want this to be a movement of women, you know, empowering each other.

Liz Lima:    

03:06 - Right? Yeah. And that, that's the thing is that I agree with you 100% because that's why I created the venous warrior movement. Same reason, right? When we have women working together with each other, it's that now, right? You have the safe place and you, you can reach out for help. You don't have to be in that dark pit anymore. Right. I love how you did that. So, so then can you explain like why, okay. Why did you, why did you finally decide that, okay, I'm, I'm creating this movement. Like what, what was that passion? What, what happened?

Mikin Sturges:    

03:41 - Okay, so going back to my previous phase of my life, I was in a domestic violence, um, marriage, abusive marriage for 13 years. And when I got out I sort of had to force myself to do it because it was just the life and death kind of situation. I don't think, you know, looking back at it, I don't think he had the guts to kill me, but I felt like he was gonna kill me. MMM. So it was just a really bad situation. I got out and even though I put a strong woman facade, you know, persona outside, I was dying inside. I was lonely. I was just constantly doubting myself, my self-worth. So I put, poured myself into my work, you know, I was like, I was there until 10 o'clock at night sometimes. And I was just doing, you know, just, that's all I did.

Mikin Sturges:    

04:47 - And also of course my son at the time, he was four years old and I poured myself into that plus that. And yet inside was just sort of empty. And I, you know, think God, I had God in my life and I stepped away because of this situation. I was just embarrassed. I doubted my worth at the shame was just big and I didn't even go to church at that time. And the pastor contact me out of blue, how are you doing? You know, I haven't seen you at the church, what's going on? And at that time and say, you know, I'm so sorry about, I'm super embarrassed, you know, here is here. I was, I was showing this, you know, a happy marriage with a son. And yet I was going through this. I didn't even tell you that I was going through this abuse.

Mikin Sturges:    

05:47 - And my pastor who helped me didn't even know that I was abused that way physically and emotionally because I never told him. And you know, we went counseling with this pastor. He's a, um, he's a really gifted counselor in addition to be a pastor, you know, so I was going through that, but I never ever said that. I never said he was, you know, pushing me, shoving me or this thing kicking me those things. So he never knew the extent of the abuse. So I said, you know, I'm, I'm just ashamed. I can't, I can't go to church. And he said, no, what, what are you talking about? You can always come back as you are. And that's when it turned around. I feel like, okay, well God loves me who, who I am. And I kept going back to church and this thing about, okay, well I'm, I may be able to help other women by sharing the story, but I was too, I had to go through my own healing first before I could help.

Mikin Sturges:    

06:58 - And you know, meanwhile, you know, all these things, my life still goes on, right? I had to go to work, I had to be my son. I, you know, daily things was still going. And I, meanwhile, I remarried, you know, after several years I remarried and again, the life to go over and several years ago it just felt like God was talking to me. I felt like Miki, it's time to start sharing your story. And one year I was in this, um, I was a board member of this women's network group and we had to share about, you know, what's significant about you and I, I told everybody, you know what, I have no significant story. And I said, just tell, tell, tell, tell about, you know, tell us about yourself. And I was like telling everybody, and one of the ladies after the group meeting and the recess, she'd comes around and she goes, you know what, Miki, your story is nothing but insignificant.

Mikin Sturges:    

08:05 - And I said, oh gosh, no. He goes, are you kidding me? You've, you've come to United States all by yourself, you know, to learn English. And uh, you went through a horrendous abusive marriage. You have gone through all these things, and yet you're telling yourself, you're telling us that you have no significant stories. That's, that's, that's incredible. So she was like, no. And that really woke me up. Say, Oh, maybe I do have a story. I do have some stories to tell. And then I started hearing God's voice. It's time for you to do something with this experience. You didn't go through this experience in vain. And I kept hearing that every sermon I heard, every radio, I mean the podcasts that I heard, you know, the message pops out at you, same podcasts, maybe same episode yet the mixed day you hear something totally different.

Mikin Sturges:    

09:09 - Right? And that's what happened. I, oh, the reading materials that I was doing, it was a popping up all the time. And um, so I had this message, I sat on it for two years. Okay. Believe or not, I sat on this idea for two years, maybe more even. And I even kept telling my couple of coaches before the program that we, we are in now. I had a couple of coaches and I even told them that, and they said, go ahead and you should do that. Used to do it. Never did. I was scared. I, I give doubt in my, you know, okay. I kept doubting my ability to share those things. But this year, God showed up in such a such a huge way I couldn't deny it. And I say, you know what? Finally I said, I, I will do it. I don't, I don't believe in, maybe I may be doubting my own strength, but I'm not doubting God's strength. I'm not doubting God can move mountains. So that's why I said I would just go ahead and do it. That's, that's a little story, Ya know?

Liz Lima:    

10:31 - And that's perfect because in your, and we'll touch upon this because I definitely want you to speak about if you're comfortable speaking about your journey from your home land to hear, because that's massive. Right? But you, you went through it, right? You, you came from, I believe it was Japan. Is that what you're getting from? Yup. Yup. So for you, you, you made a decision and you, and you did it, right? So you do this thing, which is massive, right? And, but you've already done it. You completed it and, and it's like, okay, it's no big deal because I just, you got to a point where you made a decision and you went with it. Right? Right. But, and, and you, and it's, this is, this is probably the number one thing that keeps a lot of women inside of themselves instead of like sharing, right? Is a fear. You, you touched it, right? You, you were ashamed, you were fearful. Of course you're feeling all of those things. This is something that's never happened to you, but yet you are strong enough. You went through that process, you healed and now, and God is telling you, hey listen, it's okay. You need to help everybody else. Now let's go. Right?

Mikin Sturges:    

11:35 - Exactly. That's about it. I, you know, sometimes we don't w what I, what I did was I kept, you know, doubting. I kept questioning, is this the actually God's voice or is it me trying to like show off? Of course. I mean not, you know, kind of thing. And I kept doubting really, I kept doubting. I kept telling my ability. When I first got divorced, I, I prayed to God. I said, God, you know what? I totally, totally doubt my ability to like find a right man. It's so, please don't, you know, I'm not going to look. So if you have somebody for me, bring him to me, I'm not going to lock.

Mikin Sturges:    

12:30 - That's actually, that's why I prayed. He was just, I could not, I kept doubting my ability to look beyond the looks of people. You know, it's like, wow, he looks really good. That's not how you look. Format. No, you know, but it's just how tello I felt, you know, is that I should look for something inside in our strength rather than just outside. And I was young, you know, when I first got married to. So, um, but you touched upon something I was strong, I wouldn't say strong willed, but I was strong because I actually went and picked my school, we call it a junior high in Japan. So we got through elementary school, six years, elementary school, um, three years of junior high, three years of high school, and then college and you know, United States, which is a little bit different. But that's what I did.

Mikin Sturges:    

13:37 - And when I turned six grade, I said, I want to go to this specific school. It was a private school. My, my sister was going at this school was very famous. It was a mission school and it was very famous for their English and music department and I wanted to learn English so bad. I was in love with sesame street and I wanted to learn English. So I said, I don't want to go to that school because that school has a lot of, um, you know, teachers who are actually from England. I learned that, I think at that time did she just from England, Ireland and America, you know, there were like different kinds of countries, people there. So I also, I wanted to learn that. So I passed the test and I went there. That was seventh grade. You know, when you think about, think back, I'm like, I have, I have children.

Mikin Sturges:    

14:37 - No, there are 1415 and they're now ready to go to boarding school. One is already in the boarding school. I'm like, as a mom, I'm like, Oh, I'm you so much. But I was only 13 when I made that decision. And you know, later on my mom said she cried many nights to me, but a that time I was like, yeah, I'm going to go and did same thing with America. You know, I said, I don't want to go and, and strengthen my English, you know, skills. Therefore I did. And when I this, I'm not proud of this. Okay. But I met my ex husband at school against my parent's will against my parents guidance. I said, no, I'm going to marry this guy. And they, they totally cut any allotments that they were sending me anything. So I was basically, you know, on my own and I had to work and yeah, I had to work.

Mikin Sturges:    

15:45 - That means I have to have a visa and you know, I didn't have to be married, but we were like young, well, yeah, let's just get married so you can get a job and you can start working. All right, that sounds good. That's what I did. Right. And that is no way I, you know, when I look back I would totally tell me, I was like, I, you don't do that. But that's what I did. That was in a way that was my strength, right? I didn't, I wanted this. I went for it. And as I went through this situation, the terrible, you know, because I was strong willed, he did not tolerate that. So he became physical. When I send my opinion, that's it, you know, just physically have to stop me. I guess he wanted me to shut up. He will say, shut up and then it will, you know, follow with a punch or a slap or pushing, you know, that type of thing.

Mikin Sturges:    

17:01 - And then if you continue with that, you'll quickly learn that, oh, I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't be acting this way. And I kept losing, kept losing it just to chip away of my confidence, chip away with my, and my worth kept questioning, am I, am I that bad? Wow. You know, am I keeping him Matt all the time? I should be better. I should be better. You know, I kept looking at myself and saying, there's something wrong with me. There's something wrong with me. I need to like look true. Tried to do something different. So I can, you know, be more, more cheerful, you know, kept kept thinking these, that was skewed, wrong way of thinking. But that's why I kept hearing, you know, it's like, well, you think you're such a little girl, you should, you should be, you should know this. This is the way to do it.

Mikin Sturges:    

18:06 - Or you know, the way you address, it's like a little girl. You should be dressing this way, you know? Well, we'll, we'll just go to them on, you know, throwaway. You're, you're all the Japanese clothes and by this American clothes because you are not American, you know? And I was like, okay. So I kept, I kept trying to change, you know, trying to change me. One time my boss saw me at the mall or something and she used the next Monday, she says, Gosh, you look, you dress very nicely, even Saturdays and Sundays. I'm like, um, yeah, that, that's how, you know, every time we went to just to go to a mall, she, he wanted me to change. He didn't want me to, that's why I looked nice whenever, you know, I never stayed in the sweats. And things like that because of that, I guess he tell me, he said, you look horrible.

Mikin Sturges:    

19:08 - You look like you cow came in. And I'm like, okay, you know, um, yeah, those things chip away. Your worth, your confidence, your strength, everything. So when I left, I was on the bottom, you know, I was actually in the at work, I was the strong woman who was in a managerial position and, um, I was making good money. Actually, I was making I think better money than my ex husband did, but I even then I doubted, I said, I cannot live on my own. I was so scared, you know, how am I going to take care of my four year old son? How am I going to live? You know, it's was like, I kept like questioning, but when I did it was like, oh, I can do it.

Mikin Sturges:    

20:05 - But with, you know, with a lot of therapy and a lot of, um, mentors and counselors, um, they helped me a lot. At that time. What I did was I doubted my ability to even stay out. So I specifically chose, I chose to go to a women's shelter. I did not call my friends or anything. I didn't even tell my mom. Um, so I just went, I planned it and I went and that was the best thing I did because the counselors there, they know they deal with these things, right? The domestic violence issues and the stuff that they told me, he told you this, didn't he? I'm like, yes, he did this, didn't he? Yes. I'm like, how do you know? Because it was like a typical abusive situation, you know, scenario, everything that I went through, you know, he will be very nice, charming and Laurier yen and, and then he controls you and then boom, something happens. It's got, you know, a cycle of violence. And then the, he apologizes and honeymoon phase come and they go, oh, everything is great. And then goes back again and boom, it happens again. So it's a cycle. And I was hanging onto a good times, not the bath time. So I will try to think of good times, you know, every time. And that kept me going, I think. Hmm.

Liz Lima:    

21:52 - So, so you made a great point about when you said that when these episodes would happen, right? And then, um, then your voice inside your head starts talking, right? And then you start making these statements and, and then you start to believe them and they're like literally chipping, chipping at you. Really? Like the way that I, I, um, term it to, to my clients is like, so you have that woman, the venous warrior inside of you, right. And it's literally like, you're just suffocating her a little by little by little, right. And she becomes like this little tiny little tiny voice in a box and she's not even like, you know, a human form anymore. Right. But so what was it for you that, that brought that power, that the something they must have been something right for you to say? I mean, even your choice to go to the woman's shelter. Brilliant. Right? Very strong. And, and uh, how did, how did you even get to that point?

Mikin Sturges:    

22:52 - Okay, so, you know, just see,

Liz Lima:    

22:57 - okay,

Mikin Sturges:    

22:58 - imagine this woman who's being abused. I was scared of every weekend because that's when we got together, you know, he was off from work. I was off from work and we would be together and the episode would happen. And then that cycle became a little bit longer as I prayed. So I thought God is working with him. You know, I kept having that hope, you know, God is working with them. But, uh, after 13 years he kept accusing me of having an affair with somebody. And, and so I say, you know, I was checking to see what, when he was in good mood, I told him, I asked him, you know what, I think it's the best if we separate and let's just try it and see how you have to realize what, how important I am to you. And I would like to realize how important to be with you and for my, our son, you know, at that time, three year old, right.

Mikin Sturges:    

24:01 - And, um, he said, okay. And luckily at that moment he didn't get mad and I was like, oh goodness. But next day he was so mad. He must've been like cooking inside, you know, it's like, what is she saying? Um, so the next day when while my son was sleeping in the other room, he brought a gun and pointed at me and say, I'm going to kill you. Don't you dare say that you're leaving me and if you just don't get me mad, this wouldn't happen. And I said, so he kept pointing at me and said, promise me, you will never make me mad this way. And I looked and I was, I was just in shock, right? I was in shock. So I said my mind, I was like, okay, I cannot promise him if he gets mad at anything. I cannot promise that I cannot control your emotions. I don't have that much power. And I said, you know, since I cannot promise you that I will never ever make you mad again. Why don't you just kill me? It's okay. Go ahead and shoot me. And he lord the God, that point, he said, you know what? You are crazy. And I of course at that time I was like, oh, please, please go away. But what do you think Maya? Cause like who's the crazy one?

Mikin Sturges:    

25:39 - But it was, he pointed at me and say, you are crazy. And as soon as he sort of log the gun and he was pacing back and forth, I just ran to the bathroom and locked the door and I start sobbing and I just prayed and I'm like, please, please tell me. I don't know what to do. But I was thinking about my son at that time, three year old. I didn't want him to learn to be an abuser. I didn't want him to learn to see this and say this is okay. Mom is always coming around and, and says, apologizes. He doesn't want, I didn't want him to learn this is normal. This is not normal. You know, and I didn't grow up in that. Um, my family, it was a normal family, even though it's Japan. So my dad was domineering person and in the family, but I never seen him abuse my mom.

Mikin Sturges:    

26:46 - They had their own problems. I admit that, you know, but I came with a family intact family, so I never seen that kind of rage. And I just didn't want my son to be that way. I didn't want my son to learn the way that, that this, this was going was normal. So I think that's the, when I say, you know what, I have to get out. He get out of here, I need to do something, otherwise this is going to continue. It's going to either me being either killed or be severely injured and then my son is not going to have a mom. So that's, that's what happened. And I, you know, it's sort of a blur now because it's been a long time, but what I did was luckily I went to work and I just kept very calm. I apologize. I even apologize.

Mikin Sturges:    

27:53 - I said, you know what? You're right. I, I think we can work things out. Um, but inside of me, I, I kept saying, I need to plan this, you know, um, because in the, in the, during the 13 years of marriage, I did leave a couple of times, but it was just like out and come back because I went to my friend's house and my, you know, I didn't want to bother them. And then of course, you know, my ex husband, I will call her or call my friend is a issue there. And she will say, oh, she has to say, of course, yeah she is. And do you want to talk to her? You know, that kind of stuff. And, and like I said, honeymoon stage, you know, I'm so sorry it will never happen again. Come back and I will come back. So I did go back and this time I just felt like, no, this, I cannot live like this.

Mikin Sturges:    

28:51 - So that's when I, when I went to work, I contacted my pastor. That's when I confessed. I said, pastor, this semester just happened. He was in shock because I never told him how bad it was. And he said, you know what, if what you're saying is true, this is felony. And um, so he, he had some resources and he shared with me and I, that's when everything, you know, I just took advice, contacted the shelter and did everything that instructed to do that plan is so important. Um, you have to plan. Yup. Yeah. You have to plan your, your mind. You have to be ready. You know, it can because everything is unknown to you, you know, and unknown to me, I was like, oh gosh. But all I could think of was like, okay, I've got, I get outta here. That's all I thought about that, that time.

Liz Lima:    

29:54 - And so, and your, your story is powerful and I thank you so much for sharing it because this is something that you had to heal right over these times, all this time. And so, so for you, how, how is it that you see yourself now helping other women? Like what stage are they at? Where are they and how are you infusing your service to them? Okay. So if you are just in this drenched in this, there are professionals, you know, um, so I would highly recommend them to go to the professionals like you know, counselors and there are a lot of resources, domestic violence shelters and I went through counseling and therapy that was provided for me, you know, at that time. And I'm so thankful that I'm grateful for that when I come in is die gap between the professional and on the way to that journey of healing.

Mikin Sturges:    

30:59 - This is a journey. It's not just, Oh yeah, I'm for healed. You know, I'm not actually completely healed. I'm still on the journey. You know, I'm just a little ahead of those people who might be going through that now. So that gap is the one that's where I come in. You know, you can get to professional counseling and everything done. That was, that is done, you know, it, it does end, you know, some somewhere you can't just keep going to therapy. And I guess you can go through psychotherapy for the rest of your life. But you know, that is also a little bit different from coaching. Coaching is, I, you know, I'll, you know, as you know, all this, that we help them think on their own. We won't just tell you what to do and help you go through the journey with you, you know, so that's why I come in.

Mikin Sturges:    

32:05 - It's a little bit different from, you know, counseling and psychotherapy and then those group thing that I had to go through. Um, you know, like there are some, um, what is it called, alcohol and allow anonymous, you know, those groups a little bit different from, you know, our coaching program. So that's why I sort of bridge the gap kind of. Yup. Yeah. Actually that's, that is the best way I've heard anyone frame it. It's absolutely perfect. Yes. Because, and we both went through this, right? Because we both went through, you know, our mentor and we were more focused on okay, um, our reach because we'd been helping women all along, but now we want to have this larger reach. Right. And we were both in the same boat of like set. Sometimes you just like, just tell me, just, just tell me the answer so that I can just do right. Oh yeah. I'm a permission seeker too. So in a psych, um, can I do this? Well, why do you think I'm like, um, there it goes to the bathroom please.

Mikin Sturges:    

33:20 - That's how we are like programmed to ask permission. Yes. You know? Gosh, well we don't give you permission. Exactly. So everyone that's listening, you all now have permission. Miki and I have now granted you permission to the thing you need to do, right. Especially when you become an adult. You know, like when you a little yes you, you, you have to ask permission for you to eat this candy or not. But as an adult you really have to grow up and think, you know, and there is, there's an inner strength and the God gave you this beautiful, wonderful you yet, like you said, you were in this little box letting everything else control you. And when you are in abusive situation, that's the abuser who control you and you and letting them, you know, and I was letting that happen. And there's a syndrome called Angel syndrome.

Mikin Sturges:    

34:36 - I don't know if you heard of it. So I had that, you know, I was sent by God to help this poor men who were abused, who was abused. You know, I can change him. I can help him change. I can help him see the love that, you know, I did think that I did think that, Oh yes, maybe God sent to me too in his life, therefore I can, you know, that's in Joe Syndrome. No, you're not an angel. You're on your own. You have to be strong because only God can change in only you have control of yourself, your emotion, not somebody else. You know? That's why I said, do you know, how can I not? How can I promise not to get you mad? Cause you are choosing to be mad. Right. You know, so, and when I have to tell that to myself too, you know, it's like if I'm getting Oh, upset. Sometimes my voice sometimes say, why are you so upset

​​​​Mikin Sturges:    

35:54 - because you didn't, you didn't take your laundry into your room on upset. It's like,

Mikin Sturges:    

36:01 - I'm like, yeah, you're right. It's, it's up to you were a wrinkled clothes and you know, cat stumped on your clean clothes. It's up to you if you want to do that. But I have to learn that,

Mikin Sturges:    

36:16 - you know, I had to learn. There's no control over somebody else's life.

Liz Lima:    

36:22 - Absolutely. And that's why as coaches, you said it perfectly. We help them to think for themselves. Right. And, and, and it sounds silly sometimes, right? If you say, oh, of course I can think for myself. Well, it's, it's, it's you figuring it out, right? We're there to literally give you the ability to have a transformation. You are going to do it. We're supporting you. Right, right, right. Because we're not going to be there forever now. And you're, I mean, and when you leave the session, right? Or are our, you know, our group program or whatever, and then you're in the worlds, you're there. Right. You're living life and, yeah. And that's, that's absolutely perfect. So what, what does it look like? So what, what do you have now for women to reach out to you? Like what, what's going on in your life right now?

Mikin Sturges:    

37:14 - Oh, there's so much going on as far as business is concerned or you know, of course I'm trying to grow this rise up woman movement. I wanted, I want to women to be aware, you know, this, these kind of help are available like your Venus warriors and same as, you know, rise up woman. Um, I want to make women aware of this, you know, we can stand up together. I always say hashtag stronger together. It is true. You know, you might be alone in feeling or worthless. Ah, I feel terrible too. If somebody comes along and say, Hey, you are beautiful, you are strong, lift you up. It's totally mixed. So much difference. And um, so I am also looking into starting a podcast and inviting other women to share their story of um, you know, betrayal and domestic violence and to empower others to, you know, did sharing your story gives hope to somebody else and empowers them.

Mikin Sturges:    

38:29 - So that's what I would like to do. And also bringing experts to talk about, you know, how to deal with the trigger. You know, I had, um, charity who does body talk and she showed us how to do tapping just in the moment when somebody triggers you and you are anxious and panic, you can do the tapping and you know, those kinds of things. And so that's the podcast that I'm planning and um, my coaching program is opening up April 22nd. Um, so that is a 90 days transformation in intensive. But um, I also offer one on one so it depends on the, you know, where they are. Okay, perfect. How can they receive more information from you? Do you have anything that you want to share so that I could, I could also put it in the notes as well. We'll rise up. Woman group is on Facebook and you have to answer three questions that I ask before you come in.

Mikin Sturges:    

39:37 - I want this group to be a safe place, so I'm not accepting just anybody, especially people that I don't know. Um, because there are a lot of impersonators and it's very hard to see. But you know, if the Facebook profile doesn't have any pictures or pictures of just cats or dogs or some scenery, I have to like say no. So there are, we do watch that carefully. That's why we're not growing like oof, you know, will gloat growing slowly. But because of that I'm watching and if you want to come in please, I do encourage people to come in, but I do want them to answer those questions. It's just three questions. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And Facebook is really the place that I hang out so you can look up, um, nick, it stirs us Facebook page be the best place I do have Instagram also rise up woman, um, Instagram and also make histories and stuff.

Mikin Sturges:    

40:46 - My personal. So I do post like my personal, so my personal ones. So you know, whichever way I, I'd be happy to connect to people and, and in the show notes I'll put, I'll put the link for the group as well as your business page so that people can, can get a hold of you that way. Yeah. Thank you. You're welcome. Is there anything else you'd like to say before we end this wonderful, amazing interview. Thank you. You know, I um, we touched upon this a little bit, but children learn from watching, you know, they, they do learn even the little things. So we really have to, if you're not, you don't have children less you, I think it's better you leave if you're in that situation leave. There may be times where I, I know of people who have actually turned around, you know, that the person was abusive, turned around actually hundred 80 degrees and became some people became pastor and game, you know, but they are constantly watching what they're doing and constantly learning to control their emotions and things like that.

Mikin Sturges:    

42:10 - It happens, but it's not your place to change that person or your place to push them. You know? I've done that too. So that's why I'm talking about, and also the children. I, I, we really need to protect our children. They learn from us. They learned from parents just watching. You don't have to say anything. They are watching, you know, please. Aye. Aye. Aye. I think we have obligation to spread this message so that they don't have to, they don't become abusers themselves and they don't become doormats themselves, you know, important 100%. 100. Absolutely. I have two little ones and you know, and they, um, they, they'll, they repeat everything. Right. They see it, they'll say things and you're like, oh my gosh.

Mikin Sturges:    

43:18 - Yeah. Yeah. Watching sometimes on Facebook shows the funny things, kids do kind of, you know, the videos and they do exactly what dad does or, you know, mom does. It's just amazing how they, you know, soaking everything. Yup. So, you know, my son, my son has now turned 23 and she is, uh, just kind hearted person. But, um, I was really afraid because he's that way he might attract the women who are abusive. I was worried about that. I see. And so I'm, you know, I have a talk with him once in a while, you know, it's a big, just be careful about that and well, so him treating women other way around, you know, he is totally against, um, you know, violence. So I, I'm glad that he is that way, but you know, sometimes he could be disrespectful to talk about. So we have to, we do a lot of talking. We have very good close relationship. Glad about that. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk a lot. Awesome. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to hear this podcast.

Liz Lima:    

44:32 - Yes! Thank you so much for taking the time. Um, I, I love this movement that you are created because it's true. There are a lot in some women are, like you said you, you didn't even tell your pastor Wright who someone was like a confidant. And so these, there are women who are going through this and then there was that gap, right, of where they have found the guidance, right. The counselors and they've gotten there. But now you know, there is support. You are offering support and guidance and coaching to help them continue on right. In their life of where they want to go. Yes, exactly. Perfect. Yay. I love you have a movement too, so we can support each other. Absolutely. Yes. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. I truly, truly appreciate it and thanks to everyone for listening. Thank you.

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