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Episode #13 | The Power Unleashed Within After Necrotizing Fasciitis: An Interview With Tanya Saunders


In today’s podcast,  Liz Lima together with Tanya Saunders talked about the Dreamboard Vision. This platform is made to inspire and free people from living on autopilot or living by default. This frees the idea that we must be able to envision a future where we are in charge of what we do and are accountable for the decisions we make. Writing these visions on paper and clearly stating the goal is the first step towards making it a reality. Actions will then follow. 

Like Ms. Saunders, a lot of us neglect our personal needs in matters of health, love or self-care because we think nothing bad could happen. But then, it really wouldn’t hit us until something drastic happens. For Ms. Saunders, neglecting a tiny wound grew to be a vicious bacterial infection that almost cost her her arm. Thankfully, she was healed although a scar remained to remind her of the experience. Dreamboard Vision started to grow from this experience - that in order to become a better person, a more caring mother, Tanya realized she has to be a better driver of her life. This awareness shaped her into idealizing the vision-dream board platform and actually putting it into action, influencing more people in the process.

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In this podcast, we also cover:

06:44 - Network Marketing

08:32 - Immediate Gratification

11:47 - Living Intentionally

12:27 - Using Struggle For Empowerment

13:40 -Way of Becoming Better

16:31 - To Purposefully Dream

20:22 - Vision Dreamboard


Being more mindful of how your body and mind works, and visualizing your dream board vision, helps you in developing more of your personal strengths and untapped potential for a lot of activities one hasn’t ventured yet. How you react to situations will shape you into honing yourself or preparing yourself for future situations which will determine the course of your career, your children’s growth, and your interpersonal relationship with the people you interact with daily. Dreamboard Vision is a platform and a revisable perspective of what would work in your life in order for you to function better holistically. Struggles will be inevitable, but how we face it is a matter of perspective and nothing is ever impossible if you will achieve it and put the effort in.

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Liz Lima:    

Thank you so much Venus Warriors for joining us again today. I have the massive pleasure of bringing on a woman here who I've met, my gosh, maybe what now a month and we are in, right? We are in now a group coaching together for something that we are launching for our businesses. But we connected because of our stories. And the reason why I wanted her to come onto this show is because she has this amazing story and hopefully, and I know it will, it will resonate with one of you and so that you know that you are able to go after whatever it is you want in your life and not think of these things that are holding you back. So I will stop talking. But today I have Tanya on the show. Thank you so much, Tanya. Thank you, Liz. Um, so all right, tell me, tell me this, what are you doing? Let's start now. Like what are you doing right now to help people? Let's just start there. 

Tanya Saunders:    

Okay. So I launched a podcast week ago called the Dream Board Social Club podcast. And we are using this platform to inspire you, inspire people to break free of what we call living life on autopilot, living life by default, living life just without intention. And, um, we're doing this through a tool called a dream board, which is visualization of your dream life. And by using, we're by using but putting the dreams on paper, you will now know what to focus on and then you, and then you'll make actionable steps, which are, is the goal setting. And the studies have shown, and I've said this in my podcast, if you actually put in one other tool, which is accountability, which is the platform that we are providing through the dream board social club podcast, that you are most successful at achieving those goals and getting closer to your dream life. 

Liz Lima:    

Nice. Okay. So, so, um, you, you probably weren't like 12 and said I'm going to launch this podcast. 

Tanya Saunders:    

I was certainly not, I wasn't even dream boarding at 12 years ago at 12. Yeah. 

Liz Lima:    

Right. Agreed. Yeah. Same. Um, so before we get to, so tell. All right, so tell me then what, what made you feel like, okay, I want to, I want to do this. Like I want to make this podcast and I'm just going to go with it. What, what caused that? 

Tanya Saunders:    

Okay, well, so I think that most people are inspired by their own stories or they were inspired by other people's stories. I at the, in 2009, you know, I've lived a pretty happy life. I had my second baby and it was a spam was a struggle, you know, that was an IBF trickle that for four years. But you know, I felt like I accomplished something and I went back to work. I was breastfeeding, you know, it was making it all happen and I was training for a marathon and it was after a long, my last long run I noticed that I had a very tender cut on my elbow and I kind of ignored it for a couple of days because I am in the health care and I just thought, you know, little little, you know, antibiotics, topical
ointment will help it. And it didn't go away and I started to get those ominous flu like symptoms and I saw my internist and B, he put me on oral antibiotics and stayed on that for 24 hours and usually, you know, within 24 hours if your antibiotic is working and it wasn't. 

Tanya Saunders:    

So I went back and clearly we, we decided that I needed to be admitted for IB antibiotics because we would market with and it was getting big and then obviously with my fever, like symptoms, we thought it would be some type of bacteremia. So I admitted I got admitted and it wasn't until two days after that that I got a dreaded phone call on a Saturday morning the day that I was actually supposed to be working in his hospital and I was sick as an inpatient and they, he said, indeed, you do not have my cultures came back and it was a different type of bacteria that they are treating for me, common known as Murcia. That's what they were treating me with. And I actually had what's called necrotizing fasciitis in that needs to be treated with different antibiotics and it's a very aggressive infection.

Tanya Saunders:    

So I emergently needed to go to the operating room that morning, which again, it was really surreal because I was actually supposed to be working that day. So I was the patient that day. And that was the start of one of my six surgeries to what they call debris to the infected soft tissue that the bacteria is, you know, eats, which is the flesh eating bacteria and um, the debris that it to make sure obviously they got all, all the infected tissue and then so when spread anymore, not to get into my joint, it's or lose my extremity, my arm or lose your life. But so from that point on, you know, in 2009 when I, when I suffered this, I, I always remember, you know, being in the hospital and just feeling like I wanted to have that like normal life, that life that I would complain about sometimes of your usual day to day complaints.

Tanya Saunders:    

And I just remembered like I would, I would never complain about that again. And so from that point, so that was 2009. I thankfully didn't lose my arm. I do have a problem and a scar that reminds me every day and I'm guilty of sometimes getting back into that default mode, that autopilot mode. And I just don't want to have, uh, have to have a life threatening experience again to remind me of that. So reminds me of your website when it talks about like not being settled. You know, I have, I embrace my ambitious Jean that I have and I'm not talking about like materialistic things I have. I have that desire that I want to have more and meaning I want to be exceptional white. If I want to be an exceptional mother, I want to be an exceptional employee. And now I want to be an exceptional boss to myself.

Tanya Saunders:    

And I, I just, you know, I got involved with a network marketing company and I thought that it just through this company, I was inspired by other people's stories. And, and within this, it's network marketing, which I was completely uncomfortable zone. I started diving deep into personal development and I met, I met a lot of people. So through these people, through those people that I met, I was inspired through their stories. So it was getting you either inspired by yourself and other people's stories and then you kind of used it a combination of both to, to feel like, you know, I can, I can use my story and other people's too. Two serves, you know, this, this mission of mine. You have a Venus, you know, I've had a women's movement and I'm calling mine a conscious dreaming movement too. Make people really think about being intentional about their day so they don't live that life of, I should have, would have no regrets. Like I would have if I actually, something did happen to me if it was up a life-threatening, you know, that I had.

Liz Lima:    

Right. Yeah. We never 

Liz Lima:    

And I don't, I'm not saying everyone, but a lot of us, you know, before we've, we've done a lot of work on ourselves, right. We learn about these things and little by little, right. But, but the masses usually don't have this type of awareness, right? Yes. Unless something really bad happens. And why is that?

Tanya Saunders:    

And, and that's, and that's what I was saying, cause I don't want that situation again to be able to cause it, it's human nature to be able to go to what's easy. Everybody wants to use a permanent brain. Right. It's just the easiest thing to do for immediate gratification and not have to work hard. But I really want to be intentional about my day and to really, you know, is an example of, of, of what is possible and be able, you know, to show my kids that too.

Liz Lima:    

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That's, that's one thing that we, we push a lot in our house is that, we, the kids and the kids know it. I mean they, oh, we don't say I can't. Yes. You know, and mine are eight and six. And they know, like one day I remember and it was something that we really could not do. I forget what it was. Oh, I don't want, my daughter could not attend a birthday party because it was my son's friend's party. And is it a place that was a pool and they, you know, they only could have certain amount of people and I'm like, Sonia, you know, we, you cannot go to this. And she's like, Mommy, we don't say, I can't. That's awesome. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You can't say that.

Liz Lima:    

And you're right. The mind, you're absolutely right. It's the reptilian brain. The, the, the norm, the comfort that that's where it's easy, right. 

Tanya Saunders:    

Fault mode is easy. It is to live by the circumstances of the day. Yeah.

Liz Lima:    

Wow. Okay. So then, so, so then you said you are in, you were in healthcare.

Tanya Saunders:    

Yes. So my fulltime, my nine to five is I am a nurse anesthetist and I do anesthesia. 

Liz Lima:    

I have a very good friend of mine in Ohio. She's probably listening that she also does the same. And She's taught me a lot.

Tanya Saunders:    

My husband, my husband is a nurse anesthetist it when he's from Cincinnati.

Liz Lima:    

Oh, that's awesome. So, okay. So then do you feel that at any point within your career did you see this type of idea like, um, you know, this, this dreaming consciously type of thing? Did you ever have any inkling about like how you, obviously you want to help people, you would never have gotten into that business, correct?

Tanya Saunders:    

Nursing? Yes. No. So I think, you know, I think the whole thing when I, when I keep saying is that I feel like I'm made for more and it's a whole evolution of what ends up happening. So I started out as a nurse and I mean to be honest with you, it just, it didn't feel fulfilling to me, which is why I decided to go back and do advanced practice nursing. And I've been doing that now for 19 years. And I do, I love what I do. But there's also, because I'm an advanced practice nurse, I'm not, you know, a position and I'm not a nurse. You never really know like where you, where you fit in. So it's, it's one of those, it's this constant like, you know, fire that split to keep, to keep going for more. And um, which is why I did the network marketing for a while.

Tanya Saunders:    

I mean, I'm still doing it, but you know, this whole, this whole notion of, you know, because I, I rehab an advanced practice nurse, you know, and I'm a mother, I'm a wife, I have three kids and you'd be a full house. Like I'm done. And that's not it. Like I don't feel like I'm done, you know? So I've always wanted to keep going. And that's what I'm saying is we can live intentionally when you live intentionally, it's like this whole evolution. You'll find what's next. You'll find what, what you know, your next angle is, which is why I found podcasting. I found network marketing because I felt like I wanted to find something else in through that. All these women's stories that really inspired me. Like, I thought, you know, I can do that. You know, and what, you know, there, I wanted what I have to be able to contribute to other from what I was getting from other people. 

Tanya Saunders:    

So what happened to me back in 2009 was just a source of a reminder that, you know, I look at my scars and every day that something can happen that's just, that's just life struggle and you can use that to define you or you can use that to empower you. And that's how I feel. That's what I feel like I'm doing. I mean, um, another colleague of mine at work, you know, she, I, she found out that I was doing podcasting and it's one of those things where, you know, like I said, I feel ashamed. I'm embarrassed of my scars. I feel, I feel almost a little embarrassed that I keep wanting more and keep going after things, you know, from certain people because everybody's judging and it's really hard to stay strong when there's just so much noise out there in the world. Cause you almost, you almost feel like you shouldn't want more.

Tanya Saunders:    

And I remember a colleague saying to me on this past week, you know, she thought she was asking me about my podcast and I'm also training for a marathon right now. She said, you do too much. And you know, I could take that and really question myself and feel like maybe by doing all this, I am taking away from my family. I'm taking away from, you know, my obligations, uh, of what I have now. But I see it as a way of becoming a better version of myself because those, those thoughts that go in your brain, like if he's negative thoughts that keep coming up, like maybe I shouldn't be doing this or you're not good enough, or you don't know how to public speak. Those are the obstacles that you, when you overcome, that's what makes you a better version. And that's how, how you can use this to really empower yourself to be able to empower others.

Tanya Saunders:    

And that's how I see it. So, no, I didn't, that was a very long answer to your question, but no, of course I didn't see podcasting any podcasting was even big. You know, I started, the reason, the reason why I started podcasting was because I was looking for those, those stories, those inspirational stories for my self development. And that's how I found this platform and this platform. It like, why not, you know? So yes, I do consider myself like I wear multiple hats like you do too. And I, you know, I proudly wear them and I'd like to keep, you know, some using this platform to be able to have a further reach to show people that we can be an example of what I consider myself an everyday person, but with a story, with a message that is very relatable and you know, to not have to have a life threatening situation that's gonna that's gonna make you go, oh, I should've done this or I should've done that. And a few things that you said. 

Liz Lima:    

So one, um, is one of my mentors told me a long time ago, my niece said, people judge, yeah, it doesn't matter. Right? It doesn't matter who it is, what the situation, circumstance, everyone, judges. So go ahead and do what you want anyways.

Tanya Saunders:    

Yes. 

Liz Lima:    

Right., and two is, is the, you know, um, those negative thoughts and all of those things. This is why this is why, and you've, and I'm sure you've learned this now, um, is that why they always ask who were the five people you spend the most time with? Absolutely. Right. I mean it's because of those things, right? Just because it's unfortunate that some people, everyone has a perception, right? Your life, my life, our lives or our perception and people don't know what they don't know. It's so your colleague sees this and either is like, wow, literally, probably is, is in awe, right? Like, you know, it may come out as they say you do too much, but she secretly saying, I wish I could do that and I don't,

Liz Lima:    

You know, I don't try to have this message of, of wanting to, you know, empower people to purposefully you dream. I don't do this in a sense of trying to make them feel bad. It's more in the sense that I feel like every person has a story, has a voice, has an influence, and it's to be able to find exactly what that is to, you know, maybe light it or relate it, that passion. And that's, that's exactly what I feel very strongly about doing. And why not? You know, like I said, like podcasting is one was not on my dream board does not come natural. And again, there's this evolution of yourself because you're, you're trying new things, you're learning new things and you'll see what works and what doesn't work. And if anything, you know, I really think I'm, I'm on the right path because the reason why I'm doing this is for personal development to be that better version of myself. And by being able to do that, I'm, I'm able to be that, that better mom, that better wife, you know, the better the better podcasts or one day. 

Liz Lima:    

Yeah. Well, and the thing is, is that, you know, people don't realize that the impact that they have on the world in general, right? Don't, yeah. And so it's so someone wanting to be the best version of themselves is actually admirable because it's not just their lives are affecting, they're affecting their children, their spouses, their family, their colleagues to all these people. Right. In a, in a bigger, better way.

Tanya Saunders:    

Exactly. Yes. I think it's, it's a responsibility, you know, and it doesn't mean that you want to have like, like a legacy. Well, I do, I want to legacy, uh, uh, taking responsibility of what I have being able to use. I'm really learning right now with the power of your own brain because what ends up happening is we were talking about like the Neg who you hang out with and although the negative, the negative chatter, you have to, you have to get yourself into the right mindset that you're never going to be able to control other people's opinions of yourself or, and if you are able to really control your mind and your thoughts, then you are able to really live on a, on a bigger platform. Because that way it doesn't become so much as right or wrong or, or she said this to hurt me is because one, they probably just don't know better take the time or they're just internalizing their, their own discomfort, you know, and projecting it onto you.

Tanya Saunders:    

So it shouldn't, it shouldn't have to feel like I have to take it away from, from me or you know, take any negative emotions from that all. It's all emotions and we can control it. Right. So you can control your reaction. Yes. Yes, yes. Absolutely. And you're right, the thing is, is that we, we cannot take responsibility for someone else's actions. Yes, yes. No, I agree. I've been doing the self coaching model. Do you know what that, do you listen to the life coach school podcast? Yes. I love that podcast. And I really, I'm at, I'm applying that model every day, which I thought is, and I've asked Brooke, I said, I think this is a way that cause people, you know, this whole Wu of dreaming in a dream doesn't have to be, you know, like, oh you know, I want to be rich and famous or anything like that. 

Tanya Saunders:    

Or you know, I used dreams in a way of just stretching what I already have because I think it's a way of, of one, it becomes realistic and to, you know, you really become mindful of what you're grateful for. Now, like for instance, like my dream would be I want to have a top downloaded podcast when I already have a podcast. But what that does is it puts into your mind of, of how you can make it actionable. So if you do use the result is top downloaded podcasts, you can actually work back to having just a podcast because you figure out what, what are your actual feeling about, about that result. And my feelings would be pride and my pride would be how does that come from? That comes from your thoughts. And your thoughts are really worked hard. I was consistent. I put out great material. Um, I was be able to serve the world with this great content. And then that obviously that becomes your action. So it's amazing thing if you actually use a model correctly and how you're able to control, again, your mind, your thoughts, and then your results, which would be anything in your life. Right. And that's, that's a great way to put it.

Liz Lima:    

I also put it in the, when I'm coaching my clients, I put it in the term of like, you have to be the person you want to be. You have to believe it. You absolutely have to believe it. Right? Those are your thoughts. Absolutely. Liz, those, those are your thoughts. Yup. And, and, and you're right. So, so it's like starting with the end in mind. What did you, right, so what are, what are the thoughts? Who Do you have to be, to be that person, to have that? And you're right, it, I have to believe it. It's fascinating. 

Liz Lima:    

I mean, a little bit of a loop and not so blue, you know? And it's so funny. So I had, um, one of my very first coaches I had, she was actually my fitness coach. So, um, after my massive weight loss journey, I competed in fitness competitions and I searched out this 
amazing woman, thank God she was a Massachusetts because I don't know how I would've done it if she wasn't there. I was very close and, um, and we actually were at an event together and she spoke and she, she's so funny because she's like, you know, Liz, I don't believe in this woowoo stuff.

Liz Lima:    

Well, do you want me to tell you that a lot of stuff you said is woo. Yeah, I know. It's so funny. It's just that perception, right? Yes. So, um, well, you know, I love how you brought up, you really do have to think about how you're going to be feeling and believing it because for instance, like I do a lot of marathons and the whole process is not fun, you know, and you can talk yourself out of it, you know, for especially the long runs. But I always go to how I'm going to feel when I crossed the finish line. And that's what ends up creating the actions, you know? And that's, that's very powerful. I probably should say that more often when I want to work out. How are you going to feel after I know. And it's, yeah, you're absolutely right. And, and you know, and the Times that I say that because you do have, I mean, I do feel amazing after, right?

Liz Lima:    

When it's not a struggle, right? It's not a struggle to do it, I guess. Yes. Or are the struggles worth it? You know? Yes, absolutely. Nothing is, nothing is easy if you want it. That if you want it that bad. And if you don't want an, if it's not that hard, it's not paying off your dreams, not thinking we'd agreed 100% and you know what? And I've seen, so here's a question then. Here's a, opinion maybe from what you've seen in all of your experiences, because I've seen, I've seen, I've seen certain things. So what do you think about, um, starting with someone who, like you said, they're not dreaming big enough, what, what, what do you think about how they start dreaming? Like, have you ever encountered someone that completely doesn't dream big at all? Like, can you just give them a, like, no, you have to dream bigger. Like, have you, have you seen that interaction yet?

Tanya Saunders:    

Yeah, my husband is 100% like that. Okay, here we go. Do you know what I mean? He's, he's what I call this content. And that's what I think the issue is. And again, you know, like a big dream doesn't have to be, so it has to be realistic. Yeah. Um, but like for instance, our house, yeah, we had a house man five years ago and I just remember my husband saying, can I be like, oh, you know, I love this basement, you know, with my friends. And He'd be like, we're never going to have that. We're never going to have that, you know? Or I'd be like, Oh, I just love that backyard and be like, we're never going to have that whenever I'm going to have that. And then I, I just remember one day I looked up and I was just like, you know what?

Tanya Saunders:    

You can't tell me that. I'm never going to have that. It does it mean that I'm saying it's now or, or I want to put us into like a financial burden, but to be able to place your own opinions on something of myself as silly as like a house, you know, I mean it's, you know, to do it, but to say, I'm never going to have that. I call him Archie bunker. I'm like just, you know, stop not imposing that, that mentality on me of what you think, you know, because there, there are ways of doing something, you know, stretching it to make it real lipstick and did it ended up happening because, you know, we did make some sacrifices, but it was an ended up happening, but I didn't like, I don't like it when somebody tells me it's not going to happen. So for those people who don't have dreams like that, I think it's kind of, I think it's kind of sad.

Tanya Saunders:    

I mean I, I though the more, the more I achieved, the more it serves as an example to myself that, that it's possible. And, and just to have faith in something, I mean, that's, what's the, I mean like how did you know, how did you know 10 years ago that you're going to be podcasting? Liz, how did you know your, you know, your oldest is eight, how did you know that you're going to, you're going to have kids you didn't know you just headed, it starts with a dream. It started with something, you know, and again, it doesn't, it doesn't want to get to the point like my arm where you know, you have to have a near death experience to be able to be like that. If, I mean there are studies to show if you go to the nursing home, those, those, those people are saying that they wish show by should've. I could've, you know, and yeah, if most people, I don't think that they are okay with that, then that's great. You know, fine live, live your life. But I think, you know, it behooves you to, to be inspired by somebody who can tell you that, you know, you can do something, you can do something more.

Liz Lima:    

Yeah. And even, you know, and, and I had to learn this, um, because of like help from helping so many women is that I had to understand that, you know, what, some people actually like their job and I was like, oh, well I don't like my job. Like I didn't like, but you know, it was a, it was a wake up call where, you know, Liz, some people actually are happy that that was what they wanted to do. Right? Yes. And so you're right, like when we say, you know, uh, a dream or a goal or whatever, it can be as big as you want it to be. Yes. And, and you're right where it does not everyone has to have the same goal, the same dream, right? Yes, correct. Yeah. And, and that's, and that's something where just because you know, here's a perfect example, one of the women that I was coaching, I was like, okay, what, you know, we were going through some things and she learned about some, some food things and suppressing, you know, sadness, whatever.

Liz Lima:    

Right? And I'm like, tell me, tell me what you would like, wake up tomorrow and you wake up and it is everything you want it to be fun. And she told me, she said, I would love to have a bookstore with a cafe and I would love to be blogging about helping other women that have celiac disease. Wow. Yeah. There you go. You just said right there, right? I mean that's amazing. Is that difficult? No. Would you may be uncomfortable in the beginning. Right? But it doesn't mean she said, I want a, you know, a 20 story mansion.

Tanya Saunders:    

Exactly. No, I know. And Lizzy, he was really interesting is that, so I'm in his life, this self coaching scholars course. So it's a coaching and the very weird tackling time management this week, this month. And one of the first activities that we had to do was to write down everything you did yesterday, everything did your whole 24 and then the next activity was to write down your 24 of your last day. You know, it's your last day. And that was really eye opening to me because how many things do I still do that, you know, I, that's not who I want to live my last day. Again, it's not like, Oh my last 24 is like, I'm, you know, I'm living on a yacht somewhere that that wasn't it at all. It was more like I would have 15 minutes with my, I talked, I'd call my mother, you know, or I would have, I'd, you know, I'd have 30 I'd have an hour of a date night with my husband, you know, little, little micro moments of the day of doing something intentionally was honestly my highly of like my last 24 to like lip.

Tanya Saunders:    

So they're not like these, these crazy big dreams. It's more of just feeling fulfilled. And I did actually have on their professionally I did have like a six hour like I would have been, I would be doing this too to like content creation for, for my work. So included every little thing of what is important to you for your [inaudible], your dream life. You know, and again, it's not eating Bon bons and drinking champagne all day. It certainly wasn't in it. So you, it's, it's very doable. It's very doable to have a very dreamy life. Yeah, absolutely. Wherever you feel fulfilled is really what it is. Yeah. What's your last 24 on those? Tell us. Oh my God, you're putting me on the spot or asking me. Sorry. I flipped it. Oh wait, hold on, I'm getting one interview.

Tanya Saunders:    

No, that's a great exercise. This is the thing like when I tell my clients is that as long as I can make you aware, so like twice, like two seconds I'll have something that may be affecting you in your life. You're now aware of it. Yes. Conscious. It's conscious dreaming movement to yes. No. So you're saying it's, it's being aware. It's, I mean, and it's the whole thing on autopilot is you're just sort of, I mean, there are some things that you have to do on autopilot, right? I mean, you don't always intention, I want to know how to brush your teeth or yeah, but, but you, you definitely want to be aware of like living right and mean. That's absolutely. So is there anything that I didn't cover that you want to, that you wanted to stress possibly with your platform today being interviewed?

Tanya Saunders:    

Um, let me think. I did write down some notes because I didn't want to, I didn't want to miss out on this, on this opportunity to share. And I mean, I think you did a really good job leading the question. Oh, you know what? I did want to say I love your website so much and I love that quote. Like I, if anybody that knows me, I'm really big into quotes now. It's just maybe because I can't articulate, you know, when I tried to say so much or B or it becomes damaged more powerful when it comes from a person of influence. And I love your quote by Henry David Thoreau of live, the live the life you've dreamed and you can and I will, you know, and so I, I really, I really admire this platform, this mission of your, of your podcast. You know, some super thrilled that my story hopefully can serve as a contribution to that, you know, as an example to the contribution that you want to be able to provide.

Tanya Saunders:    

Absolutely. I know that's why you're here. That's fine. I know I enjoy this mentorship program and the, and I can't wait to to learn more from you, but it's true. Likewise. I don't think that people really think of themselves as a, as a venous warrior, you know, and, and like I said, like you know, I actually had when you, when you were talking about that and I was like, Huh, you know, maybe I am, you know, but I do feel like the everyday person, so the everyday person does it need to have a story like mine, you know, to be that, to be able to feel empowered. But I think that you and I are just trying to serve as an example to be able to empower others to feel they can empower other people. Like what you are doing

Liz Lima:    

100% exactly. Exactly. In your, and your mission of the conscious dreaming is, is part of this whole thing, right? I mean it's like I'll, I'll help women who it's like they, they're really, you know, they, they get to a point in their life where they've, they've worked so hard, you know, they, they're accomplished, right? They've gone the degrees and the kids and the house and all this stuff and then they just kind of wake up and they're like, wow, this, this is what it is. Right. And they just don't feel fulfilled and then incomes you with the conscious part. Like this is the whole, right. It's a full circle. 

Tanya Saunders:    

No, our story's really connect because you know, even on your website you had that word settle, you know? And that's exactly what, what you don't want. You know? And again, it's like you brought it back to your profession and some people do like their job. And I like my job. I do. I, I truly enjoy giving anesthesia, but I, but it's, it's, I, it's the not so freedom of your schedule and then not so freedom or you know, a little bit, you could demoralized with the politics of like the work structure and then it ends up becoming, you know, not 100% your passion. So it's all about being able to, to find your balance that's going to suit you to, you know, we'll be able to give from you. I don't know if that makes sense or not. You know, like, so some people might like the job, it'd be, it'd be nice to be able to have your job still be able to, a source of, of a passion of yours,

Liz Lima:    

You know? Yup. Yeah. But exactly. So how can people find you then? 

Tanya Saunders:    

Oh, well, okay. So I am on Instagram. Um, my, my own handle is Tonya get at, you know, so at Tanya gap and then our dream, our podcast is at Dream Board, sc at dream board SC. And then on that Instagram, there is a link to our website or webpage. Awesome. I'll also put, and we are alive too on our podcast. So yeah, I love, I love that. Are that our podcast connect

Liz Lima:    

With the same. Absolutely. And the beauty is, is that, um, whenever people think that, you know, let's say someone was thinking about, you know, I really am really good at teaching people how to garden, let's just say, right? And they may think, oh, but there are so many people that do that already. There's not so many of you doing that already, right? No. Everyone has a different view. Everyone has a different perception of stuff. Right? So why not? Someone's going to resonate with you as opposed to whoever the other person is. Right.

Tanya Saunders:    

Well, I'm glad you brought that up because that is actually, I forgot, I did want to talk about that. This whole, this whole dream boarding thing that I have, we talk about this concept of dreaming from a place of abundance. And so what you're talking about is scarcity and that's where a lot of people have an issue with dreaming because they live in something as you said, it doesn't have to be a big dream. It's just like a garden. Right. And so I'll tell Gordon's are really hard, but good gardener, I'm telling you right now, you know, it's you. If you feel like you, you can't do that because somebody who already has that. But I see it as a way as you were saying, is that, but, but nobody has it like how you're going to do it or nobody has it. Like how, how you know what you can offer.

Tanya Saunders:    

So there's, you have to have an abundant mindset. And I think that's really important. I'm so glad all of a sudden like, Ding, Ding, Dang. And I brought that up because that is a concept that is I'm working on, you know? And I think that's super important to be able to do that, you know? Yeah. It's, it's definitely a different mindset than what, what the societal norms, right? Yes. I've taught us. Yeah. And that's why we're out there spreading it out there. This is wonderful. Thank you so much, Liz. That was great. This was awesome. Thank you so much. I will put all of your information in our show notes and I'll eat them. So everyone listening, you can see, oh my gosh, you could find all the information there and you can definitely share this podcast, Sarah, with any woman that you feel as well. You hear this meshes happy to thank you, Liz. Thanks, everyone. So welcome. Thank you.


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