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How One Mother Took A Chance At Her Calling with Lorna Hollinger


In today’s blog post, Liz Lima was with the founder of the Australian Tapping Institute, Lorna Hollinger. Australian Tapping Institute is a Meridian combination of acupuncture and acupressure. The idea of tapping is to activate the acupressure points while using some cognitive therapies and exposure therapies. Negative emotions are recognized and soothed by being tagged in the process of this activation. When this kind of therapy is in action, it’s attack is quick - the traumas and emotions are being detached from those memories. Lorna also trains life coaches to be life coaches. This Australian tapping institute attracts Reiki masters, kinesiologists, and people who want to do bodywork.

Starting up a platform is a worthwhile struggle, especially for Lorna who becomes a voice for women who want to be more and do more in life. This Australian Tapping Institute was rooted in a lot of heartbreaking realizations and pauses that lead to recognizing one’s own strengths and weaknesses. Through this type of therapy, one will get to free the self from the attached negativity on certain events in our lives and continue truly believing that a better life can be lived.

Tapping has never been this rejuvenating and empowering. Australian tapping institute blogs also provide a self-help module in marketing and personal management.

One of Lorna's freebies is a guidebook that explains to people what sort of different EMT training are available. To get it, just visit www.Australiantappinginstitute.com.au and look around.

You can also catch the Australian tapping institute free courses here, https://australian-tapping-institute.teachable.com

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Liz Lima:

Hello Venus Warriors. Thank you for joining me today. And we have an amazing interview for today. And the reason why I'm doing these interviews, as you know from my last interviews, is that these women have gone through some type of struggle, something that they've overcome to be able to be the woman that they are today. And their stories are fascinating. And the point of me having them on here, which I am honored because they're taking their time to speak with me to share with you, is that anything that they say may resonate with you and it will help you to be able to get over whatever obstacle it is that's just holding you back right now to go ahead and achieve what it is that you are looking for. So today, all the way from Australia, right? Yes. This is Lorna and she has an incredible story, but first would you mind telling us what it is that you have currently and where you are now and what your business is right now?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Okay, so I run the Australian tapping institute. So for people who aren't familiar with tapping, it's it's Meridians. So it's the same acupuncture and acupressure points as what we'll talk. So in we really that acupuncture and acupressure both use, so your body's an electrical circuit and the, the idea is we activate the acupressure points while we use some cognitive therapies and exposure therapies. So recognizing what the negative emotions are, acknowledging we've got them and using tapping to imagine, imagine your brain has tagged memories of traumas and things that upset you. We helped a ton tag that. So things that one subset you and bothered you didn't do it by talking and activating parts of the body.

Liz Lima: 

Oh Wow. Okay. I, and I, I've heard of tapping before and I've seen, I've seen that, um, in the documentary I watched it was very powerful, but I was still trying to understand how it works.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Is it, so with a, let's say like a tag, like you said, you have a tag to an emotion. Yes. Is it a tank to a memory? A memory. So imagine you had a dog bark at you when you were three, you got a fright. Then tags, the dog might be a bit scary. Maybe you were about 10 and a dog runs up to him and get another little bit of a fright. Okay. So your brain's tag them together. So then when you get older and other things start to happen, your brain, your brain's a little filing cabinet. So it sticks all these things in together. So that's effectively with tapping is the strength tapping into cute. I train life coaches to be life coaches, but ones that want to heading into the healing modalities, ones that want to do the tapping ones that want to do the bodywork. We attract Reiki masters and kinesiologists and NASA and people want to do body work rather than, let me take, look, told me your goals and what you want to do and when you want to get deep. When we use a different kind of therapy, it's attacking is our primary because it's so quick, fast, the traumas and emotions and untagged those memories.

Liz Lima: 

Wow. Wow. So that's really powerful because it's both, like you said. Life coaching where we're helping the client / customer getting from where they are to where they want to be. But this is powerful because it's, it's, it's helping them untagged that memory, which may be causing them discomfort because they're not getting where they want to be.

Lorna Hollinger: 

It's the blocks and it limits. So it's this, the conversations in our own head rather than try to logically get across it, like quite often life coaching does. This is the tool that texting to the unconscious, it points the stopping the back end part. So getting from a to B is easy cause we get over the hurdles quicker and easier. We untagged all that stuff and it just, it just don't use the space.

Liz Lima: 

Oh, I love it. That's amazing. Now I have to know more about this because yeah, this is amazing. Yeah. Well, okay, so then, okay, so how did you, how did you think, or how did you stumble upon us and say, okay, tapping, this is what I want to do.

Lorna Hollinger: 

2011 I'd already started a life coaching deployment.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So I, I went on, you know, I guess I just wanted to help people thought, you know, this was a nice way to do it. So I did life coaching and I do a neuro linguistic programming, which was awesome. And I set up a practice here in Sydney. I saw one on one clients and they got great traction when they were with me, but I always felt when they left me, something was missing and I'd, I'd get those text messages, I'd get the phone calls that something's happened to you, this has happened, bear. And it was, I just felt was something missing. And a girlfriend who I'd gone to coaching college, we had found this tapping and he was really quite insistent and you know, I'm assigned to head kind of girl. I'm a practical, sensible. How could this possibly work? I did. I, I just thought it was too, Huh?

Lorna Hollinger: 

I really did. But it wasn't until she became the coach and I became the client or met a captive audience and he said, come and experience it. And once I could let go and experience it, I was hooked, couldn't get coached quick enough, couldn't get qualified quick enough, couldn't introduce it to my coaching or to my practice with my clients quick enough. So we did therapy in session. We made tracking the session, but when they left they got to tap. Here I am safe. Three words, that's all they had to say and that would get them past pretty much anything that happens in the moment. You have an argument with your mom, kids sets you off, your partner. I'm feeling a little bit triggered, you know those sort of triggered me feel a bit more here. Just here the collarbone, I am safe or I am fine.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Three words don't overcomplicate it. So every client that left my studio said those three words. So the text messaging, reduce the phone calls, reduce, they texted me, this has happened. Go Cat for five minutes and come back to me. They didn't come back because I had a tool to Tom and it was, it was this brilliant, oh that's so, you know, kind of fast forward a couple of years, my divorce is coming through, my marriage has fallen apart and I'm going through the stage of divorce and I looked for a practitioner that I could work with to support me and I couldn't find when Human Sydney. So I went, well, if I can't find one, let me grow my own. And I created an academy and institute to train them. So, so what, what year was my gosh. Okay. So what year was that then that you start? Um, 2000 and kind of was thinking of the day. It was probably about 2015 14. I started practitioner training. I did, I did a year of it. And again, thought there's something missing. I pulled it off the market, I pulled my whole business model apart and I looked at what was missing. It was the life coaching component, the actual, how do you talk to humans, how do you engage with people, how do you understand patterns and programs? And put it all back together and launched about 18 months ago.

Liz Lima:

I love it. So then, okay, so were you always in Australia? Are you from Australia?

Lorna Hollinger: 

No, no. I came from Scotland in about 1969 oh my parents. We traveled by boat from Scotland to Australia and they just, yeah, they would go to Canada or Australia.

Liz Lima:

Okay. Did you say you went by boat?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Yeah. Yeah. In those days they came by boat. It was a six week cruise from London to Australia.

Liz Lima:

And how old were you, four?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Yeah.

Liz Lima:

Do you remember any of that yet?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Yeah, my, my parents. We came around South Africa, the Cape of South Africa, across Australia and round Australia and yeah, ended up in Sydney. We have brave, or my parents, they, I think they had four trunks, two kids and $200 and they moved to the other side of the world. Yeah.

Liz Lima:

Yeah. Wow. I love that because I, I think personally, this is my feeling is a, my parents also did something like that. They were not on a boat. They did do a plane, but the, where they came from, they had everything and then he went to nothing really. Right. And that to me, I feel as, um, that gives me a little bit of my, you know, my inner strengths and my, you know, my tenacity is that I'm not going to give up on stuff. I'm sure the same for you. Right. So tell me a little bit, tell me a little bit about that. So after that journey you, you come into Australia, uh, you said, okay, so you said that they just came across from London or was there anyone in Australia? Did you have any family, anything?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Nope. We had no family whatsoever. My Dad had a friend who lived about 40 minutes away. Um, we stayed with him for probably two or three nights and then they got an apartment for us and we moved out and they just set up a life here.

Lorna Hollinger: 

And you gotta remember in those days there was no, there was barely phone calls across the world. Yeah, yeah. Direct letters to each other. Yup. Yeah. And I'm fine with that.

Liz Lima:

My, my parents are from Portugal, the Azores. So I'm familiar with, Yup. There's, I know my father and when my mother were, were dating, they had, they had to call from the post office, they didn't have phones at home. It'd be the post office to call each other. Right.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So different, different times as you and I on a call on the other side of the world, I know with videos, I'm in the same room. Exactly. It's unbelievable what, but this is perfect, right? Because now we're able, we have the ability now to share what we feel that we were meant to do now. Right. It's just easier and it's able to get out to so, so much.

Liz Lima:

Like so many people, which is amazing. So fast. Exactly. Exactly. So then, okay, so now you're in Australia, brand new life. Tell me a little bit about how, how you, you just went through life, like there had to have been something, right? They must've been some type of progression, uh, through your life of like, you know, one day you didn't just say, I'm going to be a life coach, right? Because I didn't do this. That didn't happen. Like one day, poof, I'm going to do this. So, so tell me a little bit about what, how you went through life and why do you feel that this just like came to you?

Lorna Hollinger: 

So a little bit background, by the time I got to 18, my mom was dating three weeks from the minute she got sick to the minute she was, we were Behringer three weeks and that was I, I was the baby of the family. So I went from being the baby to being the housewife, the woman that you need to work at, how to do groceries and pay bill. And it was like, what is all of this? So that was, that was, um, early eighties, Mama's gone. And brother, I'm still to this day, don't quite know where they went, but they certainly weren't at home with me. So a year or so later I got married and moved into my own home and never really dealt with my mom dying.

Lorna Hollinger: 

I really didn't. And you know, fast forward, I get to mid thirties

Lorna Hollinger: 

And they diagnosed me with clinical depression. Go and take these, these drugs stickman prescription drugs. It re the worst I got the more my husband went to work, he couldn't cope. We had children by vein. I'm sitting about 37 and I just, I sat on the steps one day and I thought if I don't leave I'm going to die. I'm going to regret the rest of my life. If I, if I don't leave this marriage, I I need to get outta here. So I did and I left the house and the cars and the money and all and, and, and just, uh, left. And the kids know him. Yeah. We split up in two days later he flew to Queensland and other state to meet the girlfriend's family that I didn't know existed. Oh yeah. So yes. So my first year with, yeah.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Okay. Cause this whole home of thing unraveled. That means me, that means the light thirties. By then I didn't know personal development even existed. You know, I bought my very first book was fuel McGraw's um, soak matters, um, self matters. Oh yes. And it was, you know, go find your defining moments. So I'm reading this book and thinking I don't have any of these, so I know like getting divorced, mother dying children, vices, areas, section another that was defining in my world. It just was okay. You know, that's what we do is in people we go through life and think this is normal. There's nothing special about this. It just is. So that started that personal development kind of stuff happening for me. I, I then did seven qualifications in seven years. So I went to college and got Business Diplomas and the coaching diplomas and with, I need to stand for something I had renounced by this stage.

Lorna Hollinger: 

I'd gone over the season and lived with my husband over seas with my children and immigrated him back to Australia with don and a girlfriend sat at my desk every Monday and would tell me who it was and went. So we're not being here this last week, but we're not talking about this men last week. There's not the same man as law. And he put a brochure on my desk and it said it's a certificate of attainment in life coaching. What is that? And I read the brochure ware, that looks pretty interesting, but let me get the highest qualification I can, let me go for the top of the food. What's the best and biggest program I can enroll in to get the best skills, qualification, whatever. And that was when it started. Wow. And I just, I, I rang up and it was like a $15,000 course and the sales goals don't hurt her spiel and went, no, no, no. You've missed the point. I mean, I just have two questions and just handed out my credit card, enroll and then came home and told my husband I'd done it.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Well we no longer married because of that. So that really just started that. I went into it thinking I could just help a couple of people. I could just, you know, learn some things and you know, somebody obviously helped me out of a black hole. I will have some skills to help other people out of those black holes. You know, how do you kind of pay it forward kind of stuff. Never in my wildest dreams did I think where I would go to what I would do. You know, I now have a 100% online coaching practice, coaching business training people to do what I do. You know, we've just got, um, insurance to the American markets, the global markets. Not My wildest dreams did I think I would have that. Uh, I just thought I'd helped with heath tables.

Liz Lima:

I love it. Oh, that's amazing. Right? And then, ah, ah, I see so many things that are coming together. So before, before we go into the helping a few people, I love that. Okay. The best part was when you said, um, I had no defining moments. Right? Yup. And, and this, this is something that blows my mind as well because you're right. Especially females, I feel do this all the time, right? Because we just, it's just, it just happened. This was, this is what happens. This is what we do. We, we fix, we go on. That's normal. In what, um, do you feel that at any point you came to came to maybe, I don't want to say, oh, maybe awakening and realization that those were pretty powerful moments?

Lorna Hollinger: 

It was probably quite a wall through my coaching journey and Eft, emotional freedom techniques, which is what AMT stands for, the reason what I call the personal peace procedure. So it's kind of like you start to write down all the things in your head ever bothered you. He said, she said it and the good me, it annoyed me and I started to write that down. So the first time I did it, I got about two pages a little bit through my EFT journey, a little bit, 12 pages. The next time I do it, and then I've gone. That's defining moments. There we go. Every one of those. But it took me slow learner. Maybe it took me quite a while through this evolution of learning and developing to go. They all defined me. Yeah. Every one of those impacted something, those 12 pages.

Liz Lima:

I know maybe, maybe it's because I relate a little bit. Um, and it's, I don't think it's because slow learner, I think it's because I imagine it where we have such a strength and we just kind of close it. I think like we just cover it, right? That's how I, it's just covered with a cloth I think. And we just move on and move on. Right. And I think it's, it's the, the time when we have to be aware and when we pull it off and it's like, Oh crap, I am pretty amazing. You know, like, yeah, right. Oh, so then, okay, so how, how, how many people came from, some people just want to help them. So how, how did it, when did you get that? Like, oh, this is, this is something, this can be big. Like you could tell me that part.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So kind of got to the beginning of my coaching and they said, you know, don't find some live humans to work with. I've got, oh, I can do this. Just let the time, do you guys have potty pain plan, direct selling? You got to just kind of like a, it's called neutral medics, little bit like Mary Kay kind of thing. And so I had done that as a business, failed miserably, just couldn't get it off the ground. So I go to this presidential director, this woman's turning over 12 to $15 million a year in who group. I go to her and I go, I can't make this work, but I know what's wrong with your girls edge. Give me access to their heads. So who, and I did a competition, I think I did six different people. Three sessions each. No six seconds each. So you know, what's that 36 sessions of working with her people in her downline to see how elevated we could get them.

Lorna Hollinger: 

And so, you know, we had girls that were looking towards getting a car, how do I help clear the stuff out of their heads? They got a car and then this one got a trip and then this one went to manager and I just worked with them. And that's where I really cut my teeth in the coaching space to go, how do I recognize what the patterns are? The blocks are in these people. Uh, so straight off the bat I had this quite thriving practice very quickly of a whole bunch of people that were intimate of Rave Nutro medics and why you sign or that we're all help me get over those blocks. Yup. Just by knowing the couple of people. So I ended up in the coaching space in Bay in um, I had a brand called small business diva and focused on party plain direct selling. And so it was in, it was really in the business sort of space, but it was all about their personal head. Exactly. Do as many business practice, many business programs as you want to. We sought your head out. It's not going away.

Liz Lima:

I love that. Yeah. Oh my God.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So while I was in that space, they all just kept coming. I didn't have to really market, I didn't have to advertise. They just kept coming. Yep.

Liz Lima:

I love that because I did a post in Linkedin, which I, I just think is silly, but that's me. Okay. So that's my opinion because everyone has their own opinion, right? Um, but I had a post where it said you can crunch as many numbers as you want. You can make a ton of like forecast graphs. You, you know, you can have all of these things, statistics and Blah, blah, blah. But the number one thing is that if you have all of these thoughts and all of these voices and noise going on in your head,

Liz Lima:

That's what's blocking you from 100% agree with you, right? I mean, yeah.

Liz Lima:

And you said it, you hit it right there, like we didn't even talk about and we didn't talk before this. And you hit it right there because it doesn't matter what you're doing in your life. You can push and drive and, and tried to do all of this stuff. Whether it's right, whether it's your own small business, whether it's network marketing, Mlm, um, uh, start, it doesn't matter. Tech, business, health, it doesn't matter. It's all of the person themselves within. Oh, I love that. Correct.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Expecting conversation you had till you resolve that you can keep paying for courses, leadership, pay for all the courses you want. But I believe until we saw that in your head. Yep. You're going to be stuck. Perfect. You can stumble. I just some of it, but the bulk of it. Yeah. Oh yes. They stock. Yeah. Or Yeah. Or they'll or they'll get so frustrated, right? Yes. Cause because it literally, it's like they're just banging their heads against the wall and it's either egg. Okay. We're going to stop the insanity doing the same thing over and over again and see what's really happening. Right. Or they give up unfortunately. Yeah. And they'll move on to something else, but they don't realize they've taken the old self with them. That's right. Say six months down the track beside anything. Have you taken the old year with you? That's right.

Liz Lima:

That's like when people just get up and move and think that, okay, it's going to be all better when I move.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Yep. No, you're still moving. You're, the person will still going to be there. All right. You're taking the all new with you. Surprise someone else to annoys you. Turns up at the new place. And it's funny, I know so many people that way. Um, so, oh this is amazing. Um, okay, so, so you, you, you put all this together, which is brilliant. I mean simply brilliant because it's, it's the ability to have, um, it's not only the conversation, but it's a, it's a physical help

Liz Lima:

With the tactics along. That's unbelievable. So then you put this all together, you relaunched now, now what are we doing at this moment? What's going on in your business right now?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Okay, so this year as of January, um, I was going to go into a roadshow around Australia. I'm just going to out and he hit the major capital cities and do that, not sat back and went, all the risk is on me. I've got to fill rooms flying to state. Cause you got, I don't know if you know Australia is wide as a miracle with Oh yeah, I have a few friends. It's massive. Yeah, it is. So we've learned a lot as well. So to do that, I just, I just calculated all of the risks and the marketing and the deal and what would I have to do. So I went to a girls, he's my ambassador, she's come up my business Gilgo how do we do it better? What's not happening in this industry? How, how does everybody else do it and how do we do it differently?

Lorna Hollinger: 

So I've just put a hundred percent online. So even my, my one day intake training, my one day live training, how have I been able to emulate that online? And I have really been bringing students together on zoom calls like this, four of them, you coach me, I'll coach you, proved to me, you've got the basics. Show me that you know the conversation, show me that you know what to do. And they do that a couple of times, then they can go work with some life. Humans, we make sure they've got the basics. Everything we did line. Yeah, we've now emulated on online or you already had all the other online components done. So we've just, to me, I do believe it's interesting game changing. It is a brand new way of, of teaching and learning. It's extremely interactive because I do all of this. I'm, I'm a Techie Geek and I love technology. So yeah, it's, it just takes people into a very different space. Cause you know, they can be working with clients globally.

Lorna Hollinger: 

We can do tapping online as long as we've got visual tap things really easily versus coaching you can do on the phone. We want to see outlines. Yes. So yes. So we completely re scope to completely rebuilt it. How do, and that's always my thing. How do we do this better? How do we do this different to other people? How do I do it in a way that I know works that I, that I know can, can manage and I can manage it. I think of a, an octopus in a string bag. How manageable was my octopus right now? And put new systems in place to manage the octopus. The octopus gets bigger. Yep. But you've got systems in place and I've just, I've literally built it like that. Oh, I love it. Oh, do it a new way. But you sit in place automated do have had we keep building.

Liz Lima:

Yup. So yeah. So perfect. So then, okay, so now how, how would, how would, is there, let me see. Let me see. Is there a certain, let's say, is there a certain person that you, you help more or, or how, what is the base of the business? Is, is, are we looking at women, are we looking at anyone or were you looking at whatever age? Who Do you, who do you feel is your s is who you're serving?

Lorna Hollinger: 

So when I look at my Avatar, I know who she is, 35 to 55 primarily women as who we've attracted. And remember it's women who want to go and do what I do because I trained in coaching that I see very few private clients. Okay. My, my prime focus is on the training and the coaching and actually the delivery of the training package, that's our flagship program is this training.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So I go in and I, I do a training for all of them, so I know who they are. They're women who want to make a difference. Their kids are getting older. Kids don't need them as much with where do they now fit, what's their identity and where they fit. And they looking for something. They're looking for some way to give in some way to grow. Now generally it's our clients don't arrest students, don't just go out and do a tapping practice and I just become a tapping practitioner, the adding it to different things. So one of my students is lives in horse country. He has an equine therapy business anyway, so he's adding, tapping into this horse equine therapy and he's creating a program for horse riders who are afraid of the horse. Let's do some tapping to get the stress and trauma death of being on the horse.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So the thinking of all these new and different ways to use a very simple technique, but how do they build programs on it? How do they do different? Yup. Yeah. And I'm loving that they're not just coming out and going, oh, let's just be tapping practitioners or let's just be coaches. They're looking bigger and different. Right?

Liz Lima:

Yeah. And that makes sense because that's what you attract because that's what you do, right? You will that are direct. How do we improve? Oh, that's amazing. So then okay.

Lorna Hollinger: 

So I mean we're talking anyone that does any type of, of help service, like that's amazing. I know he's, yeah, fascinating stuff. But it's, it's anyone. And so for us, we're very focused on the body work. So part of the work I do, well I do the tapping is I train people how to do the bodywork, had a conversation, have a conversation with the body.

Lorna Hollinger: 

You know, your client goes, oh, I've got a tightness in my chest to talk to the tightness in the chest. Don't just pretend it's not there. So I'm not sure if, you know, tapping very much focuses on the negative. We say the negative. Um, I'm feeling angry, I'm feeling sad, I'm feeling this, I'm feeling cause we want to actually acknowledge that, that thought, the emotion and the feeling there anyway. So let's bring it up. Let's get rid of it. Let's, let's actually acknowledge that it exists. Okay? So that's how you're able to then move and shift all the other stuff because you've actually brought up clean it and got rid of it. Right? Yes. I like that. That's, I do that a lot with, with my clients as well as the, you know, you have to become aware of it because now that it's here, now we can address it.

Liz Lima:

Right. Exactly. Awesome. Cool. Yeah. So is there anything that you would like to say that maybe I didn't ask or didn't cover with you?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Not Really, I guess. I suppose I just loved the way we've gone all over the place. Um, I mean I can talk about tapping for hours. I can talk about human behavior four hours. That that really is my passion is understanding people and being really curious about them and wanting more for all of us. You know, I, I like it. Somebody pulls me out of that black hole years ago. Yup. Somebody real yet a woman turned up, a friend who had just lifted me up when I needed it. Yup. And for me, it honestly is that whole, I am obligated, it's my, my journey, my role to pay it forward to, to bring anyone in behind me that that's, that's why it has to be a, of just bringing everyone in behind me. And I love ripples in ponds and you know, I know a woman, when I did particularly one on one practice, some of it would come to see me, but you know, it's not just about then, you know, it's going to report to their children when they get home and their partners and who they touch at work.

Lorna Hollinger: 

And if everything just changes everyone because everyone has an impact. Everyone has an passed, whether they realize it or not. And that stuff gets me excited there. My mission has always been, I want to touch the lives of a million people across the globe. I can't do that on my own. Right. I have to have the school, I have to have the school to do that.

Liz Lima:

Perfect. So yeah. Wonderful. So, okay, so then how, how can we get ahold of you? How can someone say, okay, I want to, I need to do this. How can we get in touch with you?

Lorna Hollinger: 

So Australian tacking institute.com.au. Um, you go on there and these, I'm up in the top right hand side. There's a practitioner button and you can click on there so and it takes you straight to the platform. You can enroll there.

Lorna Hollinger: 

You can start immediately perfect and say yes, I will. I will have all of this in the, in the show notes, but what was the address again? Australian tapping institute.com.au. Now one of my freebies on there at the moment is a guidebook that explains to people what sort of different EMT trainings available. The mix of what online looks like, what part mix online and offline looks like, what completely offline looks like that people hate to my website. They can go on there. Now the other thing I have is a whole bunch of free courses that people can just go and and enroll in. There's this self love project, very much tapping based very, very much. It's audios, workbooks go and enroll themselves in it and they can have that to free. And maybe it might be an introduction to tapping forum. People aren't really familiar with what it does and the power of it, right?

Lorna Hollinger: 

Other programs, your life by design, that's taking people more into the coaching space. If you were thinking maybe you might be wondering what a life coach says and what sessions might look like. That's the course and they both free. And I invite all of your, your subscribers, all of your listeners to come online, go and do some free courses. Perfect. It'll change the ripples regardless of what they do after they've done the course, the ripples of the ripples will change.

Liz Lima:

Perfect. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing your story and I know that it will resonate with someone and that's the whole point of this podcast, right? Is, is, is to give that hope and, and light that flame again. Um, because that's exactly what the venous warriors movement is all about because we all have that inner strength, that inner Venus Warrior. But sometimes we lost her. And yes, women like you and I, we went through things and we found it and we, and we went forward. Thank you so much.

Lorna Hollinger: 

Thank you so much for inviting me on. It's, it's been absolutely fabulous to meet you. That was to spend time with you and you know, it's fabulous to share with your listeners. Thank you so much.

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